I've been wanting to find a good set of modern/SF (even WW2) skirmish rules for a while now. By "skirmish" I mean typically less than 10 figures a side (i.e. about a section or a party of adventurers + opposition) where:
- 1 figure = 1 person/being/bot
- Ground scale = figure scale
- A "turn" is probably less than a minute
- Firing and most other tests are per figure not per unit/element
- Damage is per figure not per unit/element
Damage is probably gradated(?)(light/serious) and probably located (arm/chest etc)
Ideally I'd also like to use them for RPG play too - mainly Traveller scenarios.
Over the last few years I've tried Force On Force (just at edge of definition), Chain of Command (definitely out of definition), and Skirmish Sangin (OK but v complex turn sequence, and general high complexity).
So now I've decided to "blitz" it and play as many as I can lay my hands on (cheaply or free!) and give them a go. I'll also be throwing some old favourites in there! Of course the upshot is I'll end up writing/updating my own, but we'll see.
So as to have a consistent evaluation I've decided to use Colin Phillip's "Protect the Film Crew" Skirmish Sangin scenario from Aug 18 of MW. The main change is that I've positioned 10 spawn points around the battlefield where each of one of the 5 the insurgents will start, rolling for each when required (eg successful British spotting roll or tempting target!). Of course being me I'm also modding all rules to play on the 4cm hex grid of my nice new desert cloth. here's the set-up, with the Brits ready to move across the river bridge at the bottom left, and insurgents in a holding pen bottom right. Small spawn point markers just visible - mainly on rooftops.
The Brits have two fire teams, each SA80 (comd), SA80+UGL, SA80 and Minimi LMG. The media team is an unarmed cameraman and reporter, and interpreter with AK47. All allies have body armour. There are 10 insurgents, one with PKM, one with RPG7, rest with AK47, none with body armour. Generally the insurgents have lower ability, and leaders have higher ability than their troops.
The Brits have two fire teams, each SA80 (comd), SA80+UGL, SA80 and Minimi LMG. The media team is an unarmed cameraman and reporter, and interpreter with AK47. All allies have body armour. There are 10 insurgents, one with PKM, one with RPG7, rest with AK47, none with body armour. Generally the insurgents have lower ability, and leaders have higher ability than their troops.
So let's get to it!
Danger Close
Presentation
Nicely presented double sided A4, laminated, and that's the whole rules. Seem well laid out, although some detail in the small print (e.g. grenades). £5 for laminated, £1.50 for PDF from Empress Miniatures.
How it Played
The Brits didn't make it as far as the T junction before they spotted insurgents on the roof NE of the T junction. That team then turned out to be the RPG one. Despite intense fire from the Brits an RPG tore into the road before the smoke could be put up. The RPG missed the trooper on the road but hit just by the right hand wall corner where the TV crew were sheltering - not a direct hit but the blast was enough to kill the camera man and severely wound two of the soldiers. Oops.The death, wound and shock carnage after the first RPG! |
The smoke cleared quickly, but by then the Section Commander had got on top of the building SE of the T Junction and took out the RPG man.
RPG man goes down! |
As the team prepared to extract the casualties the insurgents opened up form the next building E and from the field edge further E. One of the UGL guys kept pumping smoke to try and protect the open flank whilst the casevac got underway but one insurgent team moved S along the field edge out of the smoke and inflicted two more serious casualties.
With RPG loader finally killed the Section Commander pulled everyone back to the casualties and men started sprinting back to the bridge carrying their wounded comrades. Fire from the other building was ineffective but the OC and his No 2 took one of the pair out. Then the OC called in off-table support and managed to get the Sniper and HMG in the same go, the former taking out the second of the building pair, the latter taking out one of the insurgents that was boldly trying to move through the scrub towards the mosque.
Laying down the smoke |
The Brits managed to clear the rest of the casualties, the insurgents now had 4 dead and two running away, so ENDEX was declared. The dead cameraman wasn't going to go down well on the evening news, but the Brits had no other permanent losses and 4 insurgents killed.
Rules Impression
Given that (because?) the rules are just two sides of A4 they played well and quickly, gave generally good results and overall I was pretty impressed and would certainly play them again. More specific comments:- AP allocation and use was good
- Spot and fire mechanic and DMs good
- Simple use of radio to communicate and call-in good,
- Shock good - like the way it disappears after a test
- RPG lethal!
- Appears to have no AP for RPG7 reload
- No UGL firing rules - just treated as grenades (no grenade range either - strong arms!)
- Would have though that the off table SF HMG would have a beaten zone rather than point target
One thing that did strike me was whilst I'm generally in favour random activation its doesn't work well in this sort of setting. In fact by prioritising the high S&D characters (the commanders) you actually get the reverse of what you want which is where a) units move by pairs and fireteams and b) commanders probably hang back til they see what is happening. Will have to build that in to mine. May be less relevant for an RPG, but even then you'd want to co-ordinate.
There may also be a general case for a more involved spotting sequence, for instance:
- Just because I can see someone on a roof top doesn't mean I can shoot at them - do we need rules of engagement?
- How does the guy on the rooftop know he's been spotted so he can take evasive/first action - interrupts?
ENDEX! |
Hello David
ReplyDeleteI will follow this with interest as I love rules comparisons. But more importantly I am looking for a similar thing! After a long hiatus (bout 5 years) I am re-looking at SF skirmish rules for Traveller-like adventurers. But I have also got the Pulp bug and looking to re-use the rules form them too! I do a little solo Traveller but it is not really Traveller and is more a sequence of task resolution. Still a work in progress. I am working on my own skirmish rules but am also looking at simple rules very similar to your criteria. I had not heard of Danger Close but the 2-page A4 sounded familiar and I see that Danger Close is a re-packaged Some Corner of a Foreign Field which has got good reviews in the past and so not surprised you gave it a 8/10. Not sure of it's value for non-military fights though.
A few off the top of my head that may be worth looking into (your list is likely long enough already but just in case):
Chain Reaction 2018 by Two Hour Wargames (just released latest version). Free.
FiveCore Skirmish Command by Nordic Weasel Games
Starport Scum by Nordic Weasel Games
Void Pirates by Four-Color Studio (my rules very loosely based on these).
I like all of the above - no real favourites!
Glad you like it. Yep should have mentioned that Danger Close is a repackaged Some Corner...
ReplyDeleteChain Reaction AAR is now up, and FiveCore on my to-do list. How close are FiveCore Skirmish and Starport Scum/ Also now adding Albedo and the new ACP164.
FiveCore Skirmish and Starport Scum are very different. FiveCore's mechanism is based around Kill and Shock dice where a 1 or 6 on the dice have an effect (e.g. a 1 on the Kill dice will kill a figure while a 6 will put a man down with a chance to rally). Everything in Five core revolves around rolling dice and looking at a 1 or 6 for the type of result. There are not a lot of modifiers but weapons do roll different Kill and Shock dice. It is very much a miniature game and it great for skirmish wargaming.
DeleteStarport Scum I am less familiar with (but do have it) and revolves around rolling a number of dice with a 5 and 6 being a 'hit' Characters are from really good (roll 4dice) to poor (roll 2 dice).There are attributes etc and rolls to save. It is more of a combination of a RPG and miniatures game.